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 10/6/2003 7:47 PM
 
Thanks to all. Fred B I think I will take your sugestion I am quite capable of following instructions and am familiar with wiring. I will get a 2500 or maybee a 3000 and just wire it to run everything, rather than splitting circuits.
Thanks again everyone
Bryan
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 10/7/2003 7:08 PM
 
This is wild--Bryan buys the Govs rig and for some reason Brent asks if he did? How did ya know Brent?
I am ordering a Newmar, and I can get the 2000 watt unit put in for about $1650. I can buy one for $950-1250. Will they not just wire the inverter inline with generator transfer switch? I can handle wiring, perhaps I need to study up a bit on this. How do wire select circuits ffor the inverter? From what I read, the inverter with its tranfer switch was wired inline after the generator transfer switch--so that would be the lead into the breaker box. I am sure I need a lot of help on this--it seemed pretty easy until I read this!
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 10/7/2003 9:16 PM
 
Luke, 1. You will not find a QUALITY 2000 watt Inverter/Charger for $950. Camping world sells a Freedom 2000 for $1106 plus tax about $1200 total 2. You will need the 300 amp fuse ($100) the remote panel ($150), Temp control Switch ($50), and the related wiring, Battery cables (Double OTT) about 20 feet worth at about ($4 per foot) A breaker box with 4 breakers ($30). You have spent about $1700 and you have not installed, and you cannot install with the best location as Newmar. By the way, this Inverter is discounted because they are over 1 year old and use older Technology. You can almost never beat a factory installed higher dollar option. By the way, I read an article about the Maine Governor and he was very pleased with his Dutch Star and said he was selling it, and since there are not a lot of Newmar dealers in Maine, I took a guess. Brent

Master RV Technician (28 years)
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 10/7/2003 9:53 PM
 
Keep in mind- when you are sizing an inverter for your RV, you need to size it to the batteries, as well as looking at the loads you may be operating. For instance, my Horizon has 3 ea 12V batteries, and a 1500 watt inverter. This complies with the 500 watts per battery "rule". Rv's with 2000 watt inverters generally have 4 batteries, which I wish I had, but I can't find a space to add a fourth battery. If you have just 2 batteries, you should not have more than a 1000 watt inverter, unless you can find space for more batteries. Please note: I am referring to the coach batteries, not the engine/starter batteries for this discussion, and oddly enough, it does not matter if you have 6V or 12V house batteries, the 500 watts per battery still holds true. Horizon Bill

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 10/8/2003 5:38 AM
 
The inverter will be in a Mountain Aire fifth wheel. Do you know Newmar does the Remote Panel and temp control switch in this installation?
And back to the breaker boxes and seperate circuit wiring---the instructions showed the inverter inline between the gen. transfer switch and the coach electrical panel. So, doing it that way you can't pick certain circuits. Why would I need another breaker box and four breaker?
I think Newmar would install a RV 2012, which I can get for about $1200. So it would cost me another $450--but I would loose the converter (say $100). You are probably right to have Newmar do it. But, If I did it I get a Freedom 458 20-12 for $950.
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 10/8/2003 6:01 AM
 
Luke, 1. I advise customers to always pay extra to have the Power Converter even with the Inverter/Charger. WHY? In my line of work (Master RV Tech) there are 2 kinds on Inverter owners---Those that have malfunctioning Inverter/Chargers and those that WILL have a malfunctioning Inverter/Charger. When Inverter/Chargers malfunction (they will) you are dead as for RV'ing. No 12 volt power and the transfer 110 thru the Inverter is cut off. With an optional Converter, you can plug it in and continue to RV while the Inverter is repaired and bypass the 110 Inverted circuits. Newmar installs the Temp, 300 amp fuse and the remote as part of the install. The directions for an Inverter show how you think it should be wired, The correct way is to have the seperate 4-Breaker box with the appliances and circuits you need Invertered going thru this Breaker box. Newmar installs the 4 breaker box. The cheap, lazy way (Camping World) is to install the main power thru this Inverter, or 1 leg of the 50 amp thru the Inverter. This is not good. Remember, you HAVE to have the Inverter within 10 feet of your battery bank. Rarely on 5th wheels will the battery bank be close to the 110 power inlet. Converters cost about $225 to $320 depending on size. Brent

Master RV Technician (28 years)
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 10/8/2003 6:49 AM
 
Thanks Brent, I appreciate your thoughts.
On this coach the batteries are normally in the rear on a pull-out rack along with the spare. Newmar will move the battery location to a front right compartment--where the inverter will be. Also going to have them run some 000 wire back to the rear battery location, so I can have 4 batteries. The generator mounts on the left side, so the front "generator" compartment is free. I know I would be better off having the other 2 batteries there, but don't know how I would vent some battery boxes?
I guess another idea would be to use two of the 320 amp batteries--if they will fit. And forget about the other two?
This whole battery distance issue has been a real pain for both me and the dealer. At one point the sales manager (who knows little about this wiring, but thinks he does) was sure I could run a 2000 watt inverter/chareger on 000 with the batteries 35' away. This message was edited by LukePorter on 10-8-03 @ 9:05 AM
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 4/3/2012 2:39 PM
 

Sorry if this is not the correct etiquette for asking or if I should create a new thread. I have a freedom 458 inverter that charges but does not invert. solid invert and blinking charge. no sound is coming from it, no fan etc. nothing happens when I trip the 30 amp breaker or the a/c 1 or 2. disconnected the posative lead waited a minute, plugged back in and still nothing. Internal issues? or am i missing something?

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 4/3/2012 8:44 PM
 

rgold - A blinking CHARGE light indicates the battery is too low for the inverter to charge (less than 10v), which resulted in a charger overload. Obviously, if the batteries are too low the inverter doesn't have enough juice to convert to 120v. If this is a motorhome, try this..... Turn off the inverter and start the motorhome's engine, NOT the generator. Let it run for a few minutes to give the alternator time to pump enough amps into the coach batteries to raise the voltage to a usable level. With the engine still running, turn on the inverter and try to operate one of your 120v devices, preferably one that doesn't need a lot of power, like the microwave light. If it works, your problem probably lies with your batteries. They may have a bad cell, or simply need a full charging. Good luck. - Dave

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 6/24/2014 2:10 AM
 

I used to drive long haul truck and the first time around I used a 750 inverter if I remember right the last time aroundi leased a truck and hooked up if memory is righta 1800 inverter.... Mounted with short and as heavy as possible cables with heavy duty blade switch to shut off power ..... I used it to run my laptop microwave and a 24 inch flat screen as well as some cooking appliances..... I just got an 85 pace arrow and I'm looking for my inverter to install.... I'm pretty sure I will be able to run one a/c unit on it ..... With a decent battery bank ..... still need to do some electricity math and find load draw on my stuff but hooking this stuff up is not rocket science and with the info on the Web most people with minimal skills can do this

Check in the truck stops because you can find some great deals on inverters there..... I got my 1800 inverter for about 200 bucks..... Another option is get on the CB in the trick spots and ask if anyone has inverter for sale .... There are always drivers that are selling their stuff before leaving their company and don't want to carry the stuff home.... You can find deals on tv's fridges microwaves cb's and miscellaneous other necessities of the road

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